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	<title>Comments on: Do You Still Believe in Art?</title>
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	<description>David Usher's blog on art, technology and the communication revolution</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Brogan...</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brogan...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the thing: *sometimes,* it doesn't matter to me. Other times, it really does. With that in mind, I want both to be labeled enough that I know. I HATE feeling like I don't know which is which. If you're doing something creative and selling? Cool. But just share that part. 

I have to tell you. I've been working all week with three guys from New Brunswick, and one of them over dinner today said he really loved your work. He's seen you two or three times, and he was REALLY excited that you were out commenting on blogs, and when he followed the link back to YOUR blog from mine, he was *really* excited that you're blogging.

Cool how comments can do that, eh? 

He talked you up so much I like you even more than I did before. Who knew? : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: *sometimes,* it doesn&#8217;t matter to me. Other times, it really does. With that in mind, I want both to be labeled enough that I know. I HATE feeling like I don&#8217;t know which is which. If you&#8217;re doing something creative and selling? Cool. But just share that part. </p>
<p>I have to tell you. I&#8217;ve been working all week with three guys from New Brunswick, and one of them over dinner today said he really loved your work. He&#8217;s seen you two or three times, and he was REALLY excited that you were out commenting on blogs, and when he followed the link back to YOUR blog from mine, he was *really* excited that you&#8217;re blogging.</p>
<p>Cool how comments can do that, eh? </p>
<p>He talked you up so much I like you even more than I did before. Who knew? : )</p>
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		<title>By: telo santos</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>telo santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm a starving graphic artist.... and i totally understand what you meant julie...art comes from deep within</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a starving graphic artist&#8230;. and i totally understand what you meant julie&#8230;art comes from deep within</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I am completely lost, but I think that there are more and more artists out there, as the society evolves.  Visual art artists have difficulties living from their art...so it is natural that they find "regular" jobs, in publicity, video games design, illustration... where they still can express themselves but where they can also earn money.

Can an ad be called a piece of art?  If the illustration is made by an artist, why not...

I think that as time goes by, art will be more and more present in ads...for better or worst!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I am completely lost, but I think that there are more and more artists out there, as the society evolves.  Visual art artists have difficulties living from their art&#8230;so it is natural that they find &#8220;regular&#8221; jobs, in publicity, video games design, illustration&#8230; where they still can express themselves but where they can also earn money.</p>
<p>Can an ad be called a piece of art?  If the illustration is made by an artist, why not&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that as time goes by, art will be more and more present in ads&#8230;for better or worst!</p>
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		<title>By: Svetlana</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Svetlana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to believe in the world, if even the world doesn't exist?.. and what about ads?
Very often sitting with scissors in hands and looking for the inspiration between lines I of course notice what you said about.
I can't know an ad you saw exactly, but anyway the fusion is better than some stupid triteness.
The ad-makers are caring about this; they're trying with all strength to produce something unusual and effective. they've got their own tricks and often make fusion to reach the task. is it not the art to make an art from ad?..however magazine is hardly the best place to look for the pure art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to believe in the world, if even the world doesn&#8217;t exist?.. and what about ads?<br />
Very often sitting with scissors in hands and looking for the inspiration between lines I of course notice what you said about.<br />
I can&#8217;t know an ad you saw exactly, but anyway the fusion is better than some stupid triteness.<br />
The ad-makers are caring about this; they&#8217;re trying with all strength to produce something unusual and effective. they&#8217;ve got their own tricks and often make fusion to reach the task. is it not the art to make an art from ad?..however magazine is hardly the best place to look for the pure art</p>
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		<title>By: Lalou</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Lalou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do. I believe in art because everyday I feel that kind of needs art gives. we can choose to let explode it or to stop your eyes on what's not that much important...real art is essential for our own each life,when your heart is connected with art...any kind of art.  I don't mind magazines...But I think to myself,if I feel that kind of needs,surely art is still alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do. I believe in art because everyday I feel that kind of needs art gives. we can choose to let explode it or to stop your eyes on what&#8217;s not that much important&#8230;real art is essential for our own each life,when your heart is connected with art&#8230;any kind of art.  I don&#8217;t mind magazines&#8230;But I think to myself,if I feel that kind of needs,surely art is still alive!</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the line that distinguishes art from and advertising is indeed blurred. however, for me art is something that is worth spending so much time into perfecting. art for me is to achieve resonating and replicating beauty for a lifetime (sometimes even for more than  a lifetime. art is the sincerest form of expression of emotion, thought, and intent. to me advertising is very temporal, fleeting. true art is definitely not fleeting, it is supposed to live forever. 

and to answer your question david, yes, i still do believe in art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the line that distinguishes art from and advertising is indeed blurred. however, for me art is something that is worth spending so much time into perfecting. art for me is to achieve resonating and replicating beauty for a lifetime (sometimes even for more than  a lifetime. art is the sincerest form of expression of emotion, thought, and intent. to me advertising is very temporal, fleeting. true art is definitely not fleeting, it is supposed to live forever. </p>
<p>and to answer your question david, yes, i still do believe in art.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Begley</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Begley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think over time and in abundance art has become somewhat commercialized.  it no longer takes a good artist to be recognized, there are too many out there.  those that are good make it with marketing and those that are good usually stay hidden and possibly credited in retrospect.  society has a critical eye, we value technique over subject which to me includes style.  i really think there is much more to say in the underdog of art before and if it hits mainstream it then becomes a matter of love or hate it.  but everyone nowadays is producing art the range is too big, so instead of investing the time majority of us can only value what many of us already know and we end up making comparisons to what is thrown in our faces which in my mind art should transcend.  then again we all need to make money i think it may be more a question how much.., it's a tricky situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think over time and in abundance art has become somewhat commercialized.  it no longer takes a good artist to be recognized, there are too many out there.  those that are good make it with marketing and those that are good usually stay hidden and possibly credited in retrospect.  society has a critical eye, we value technique over subject which to me includes style.  i really think there is much more to say in the underdog of art before and if it hits mainstream it then becomes a matter of love or hate it.  but everyone nowadays is producing art the range is too big, so instead of investing the time majority of us can only value what many of us already know and we end up making comparisons to what is thrown in our faces which in my mind art should transcend.  then again we all need to make money i think it may be more a question how much.., it&#8217;s a tricky situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and I would say that is an abuse of art companies doing that.  But I suppose if the commercial artist is being paid quite well, which they should especially in a case like a pharmaceutical company where they make tons and tons of money even in a recession (don't get me started), then that is fine, obviously, it is afterall commercial art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and I would say that is an abuse of art companies doing that.  But I suppose if the commercial artist is being paid quite well, which they should especially in a case like a pharmaceutical company where they make tons and tons of money even in a recession (don&#8217;t get me started), then that is fine, obviously, it is afterall commercial art.</p>
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		<title>By: yvette</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cassadaga- You have a  point about vintage ads being used as art-deco in homes as a form of self-expression.  Many people collect old canisters etc.  with ads on them and use it for decor or as art pieces. I like seeing a really creative ad. I just don't appreciate it when they tie the ads into an article. It makes you wonder if the article is written as a means to sell more of the product. Pharmaceutical companies are famous for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cassadaga- You have a  point about vintage ads being used as art-deco in homes as a form of self-expression.  Many people collect old canisters etc.  with ads on them and use it for decor or as art pieces. I like seeing a really creative ad. I just don&#8217;t appreciate it when they tie the ads into an article. It makes you wonder if the article is written as a means to sell more of the product. Pharmaceutical companies are famous for that!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/17/do-you-believe-in-art/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say that true art, art being created for absolutely no commercial purpose, is very important as it helps define who we are as a people, society, nation.  That being said, I don't mean that only art that is made with no commercial purpose is true art, of course not.  But there is nothing like just going outside and playing a game of catch a football with your wife (which we do, we don't have kids), or doing anything recreationally with no purpose other than you enjoy doing it, whatever it is.  And if you are doing something artistic that you do, in fact, wish to sell to put food on your table, then if you do it with the spirit of it's art for art sake, then I think it will be a better finished product in the end. 

David, when I see you perform, you do come across to me as someone who I think produces your art from scratch in a very non-commericial, organic way, very much from the heart and with your own expression.  yes, you do have a family to feed etc, we all know that, but you seem to be someone who was born to be an artist and create from the heart.  Both myself and my wife love how you relate to people, like in St. Catharines you got people on the stage and also talk to the crowd.  This is part of your art, who you are, and it's great, to me a non-commercial part of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say that true art, art being created for absolutely no commercial purpose, is very important as it helps define who we are as a people, society, nation.  That being said, I don&#8217;t mean that only art that is made with no commercial purpose is true art, of course not.  But there is nothing like just going outside and playing a game of catch a football with your wife (which we do, we don&#8217;t have kids), or doing anything recreationally with no purpose other than you enjoy doing it, whatever it is.  And if you are doing something artistic that you do, in fact, wish to sell to put food on your table, then if you do it with the spirit of it&#8217;s art for art sake, then I think it will be a better finished product in the end. </p>
<p>David, when I see you perform, you do come across to me as someone who I think produces your art from scratch in a very non-commericial, organic way, very much from the heart and with your own expression.  yes, you do have a family to feed etc, we all know that, but you seem to be someone who was born to be an artist and create from the heart.  Both myself and my wife love how you relate to people, like in St. Catharines you got people on the stage and also talk to the crowd.  This is part of your art, who you are, and it&#8217;s great, to me a non-commercial part of you.</p>
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