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	<title>Comments on: I Have A Dream - If Artists Could Organize</title>
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	<description>David Usher's blog on art, technology and the communication revolution</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ElizabethLouise</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElizabethLouise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this one when a freind's band posted.  Maybe not exactly the ning imagined, but an interesting platform for artisits none the less.

http://www.fuzz.com/corp/about?tab=Company</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this one when a freind&#8217;s band posted.  Maybe not exactly the ning imagined, but an interesting platform for artisits none the less.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fuzz.com/corp/about?tab=Company" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuzz.com/corp/about?tab=Company</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/26/i-have-a-dream-if-artists-could-organize/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me know how Ning goes... i'm helping Natasha with some web stuff and we're curious about taking that route and getting an NLX NING page up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know how Ning goes&#8230; i&#8217;m helping Natasha with some web stuff and we&#8217;re curious about taking that route and getting an NLX NING page up.</p>
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		<title>By: lalou</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/04/26/i-have-a-dream-if-artists-could-organize/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>lalou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to congratulate you and your family for the little astronaut arrival.  Océane...hopin'she will be calm and peacefull as a blue sky and sea in a windless and sunny day.
Bravo!
Lalou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to congratulate you and your family for the little astronaut arrival.  Océane&#8230;hopin&#8217;she will be calm and peacefull as a blue sky and sea in a windless and sunny day.<br />
Bravo!<br />
Lalou.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Begley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Begley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am not really positive as to the subject here, is this a matter of brainstorming to make artists more money the term metric and equity assuming the artist is already established and if they made more could make room for non-profit?  i agree money has moved around but for the better because there is a larger amount of people needing paycheques behind such large terms as isp's, mobile and social network who get up in the morning because they have to just like there are many that don't.  i think artists become artists because they want to live outside the lines.  they make a lot compared to the average person and reality speaking is work no matter the profession..yeah if we dreamed someone who has a lot of talent deserves millions but it is not always that practical and sometimes should be questioned as to where this talent is directed.  i think musicians make enough money as it is and if technology has caused the business to worry it isn't that much money in the grand scheme of things and most industries are going through the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am not really positive as to the subject here, is this a matter of brainstorming to make artists more money the term metric and equity assuming the artist is already established and if they made more could make room for non-profit?  i agree money has moved around but for the better because there is a larger amount of people needing paycheques behind such large terms as isp&#8217;s, mobile and social network who get up in the morning because they have to just like there are many that don&#8217;t.  i think artists become artists because they want to live outside the lines.  they make a lot compared to the average person and reality speaking is work no matter the profession..yeah if we dreamed someone who has a lot of talent deserves millions but it is not always that practical and sometimes should be questioned as to where this talent is directed.  i think musicians make enough money as it is and if technology has caused the business to worry it isn&#8217;t that much money in the grand scheme of things and most industries are going through the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dabetswe Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dabetswe Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly think it's true that artists, especially musicians, really attract traffic in the cyberspace and should deserve a piece of the pie as an appreciation for them. I don't doubt that artists could organize. I think throughout recent history, artists have played important roles in being active in the community. It's actually an amazing power of influence that artists have. Maybe because there is something spiritual or transcendental about music (and art). I know, at least for me, that whenever I listen to music, it has this effect on me.

I'm also thinking, the commercial versus intrinsic value of art (and artist). I think many artists get into their art for the love of it and some may find it hard to put a price to their work, or even to commercialize, because than, it's putting dollar value on it rather than human value. Perhaps, with this notion or belief, that it's hard to find true value for art, especially since it's so subjective, even in music. I believe these are not mutually exclusive of each other though, and that just because an art and its artist can gain commercial value does not reduce its intrinsic artistic, cultural and human value. Though, I guess that's also the question you posed before about art and ads and media and commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly think it&#8217;s true that artists, especially musicians, really attract traffic in the cyberspace and should deserve a piece of the pie as an appreciation for them. I don&#8217;t doubt that artists could organize. I think throughout recent history, artists have played important roles in being active in the community. It&#8217;s actually an amazing power of influence that artists have. Maybe because there is something spiritual or transcendental about music (and art). I know, at least for me, that whenever I listen to music, it has this effect on me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also thinking, the commercial versus intrinsic value of art (and artist). I think many artists get into their art for the love of it and some may find it hard to put a price to their work, or even to commercialize, because than, it&#8217;s putting dollar value on it rather than human value. Perhaps, with this notion or belief, that it&#8217;s hard to find true value for art, especially since it&#8217;s so subjective, even in music. I believe these are not mutually exclusive of each other though, and that just because an art and its artist can gain commercial value does not reduce its intrinsic artistic, cultural and human value. Though, I guess that&#8217;s also the question you posed before about art and ads and media and commercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way you say things Yvette, "reroute money back to where it belongs (in the hands of the artist)" sounds right but it might not be that simple though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way you say things Yvette, &#8220;reroute money back to where it belongs (in the hands of the artist)&#8221; sounds right but it might not be that simple though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Japanese have been doing live streaming concerts for a while now. They have a site you can go to and pay with your credit card to get the stream on the date of the event. They also make downloads of live concerts available for a fee. Both of those ideas seem to work for them. They also tend to be a lot more creative with their marketing. A lot of first press cd's come with autographs, small gifts like keychains, calendars,a dvd with music videos or concert footage on it etc., which makes them more attractive to collectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese have been doing live streaming concerts for a while now. They have a site you can go to and pay with your credit card to get the stream on the date of the event. They also make downloads of live concerts available for a fee. Both of those ideas seem to work for them. They also tend to be a lot more creative with their marketing. A lot of first press cd&#8217;s come with autographs, small gifts like keychains, calendars,a dvd with music videos or concert footage on it etc., which makes them more attractive to collectors.</p>
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		<title>By: yvette</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dream big, think big, do big! I agree that metrics shouldn't have to be cut in stone. Artists can certainly bond together to form a coalition to reroute money back to where it belongs (in the hands of the artist). Also, we know that by bonding together arists can do big things. Look what they do for non-profit charities like Live aid, Farmaid, American Idol Gives Back etc.) Although some may do it strictly for promotion, we know the artist has power to generate "big bucks." I think a mix of the two (profit and non-profit) would be a good start. 

@Shannon: Live streaming concerts would be an awesome idea and charities could benefit greatly from this as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dream big, think big, do big! I agree that metrics shouldn&#8217;t have to be cut in stone. Artists can certainly bond together to form a coalition to reroute money back to where it belongs (in the hands of the artist). Also, we know that by bonding together arists can do big things. Look what they do for non-profit charities like Live aid, Farmaid, American Idol Gives Back etc.) Although some may do it strictly for promotion, we know the artist has power to generate &#8220;big bucks.&#8221; I think a mix of the two (profit and non-profit) would be a good start. </p>
<p>@Shannon: Live streaming concerts would be an awesome idea and charities could benefit greatly from this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you not think for about a minute? I guess not! Well we all love you as the artist that you are and no one stays in this field as long as you've been standing your ground without a strong head, therefore I have no opinion this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you not think for about a minute? I guess not! Well we all love you as the artist that you are and no one stays in this field as long as you&#8217;ve been standing your ground without a strong head, therefore I have no opinion this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea sounds great but, with the stronghold that the social networking sites have now (from the vastness of their reach), i think artists will need to develop that exclusive content to draw people in! With "MyFace" becoming increasingly more music friendly, what more can be offered to create the impetus for the audience to make the change? Live streaming concerts? A chance to contribute to the finished product? I'm not sure what it would look like but I think it is the key to making your dream a reality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea sounds great but, with the stronghold that the social networking sites have now (from the vastness of their reach), i think artists will need to develop that exclusive content to draw people in! With &#8220;MyFace&#8221; becoming increasingly more music friendly, what more can be offered to create the impetus for the audience to make the change? Live streaming concerts? A chance to contribute to the finished product? I&#8217;m not sure what it would look like but I think it is the key to making your dream a reality!</p>
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