Comments on: Me at Mesh. On Music, Community, Ads and Interaction http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/ David Usher's blog on art, technology and the communication revolution Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:43:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dabetswe Natasha http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2251 Dabetswe Natasha Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:21:08 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2251 My husband works in marketing world and he always tells me the way he runs his business and getting clients, which is pretty close to that last sentence you mentioned. In fact, trying sell products indiscriminately is no longer the way to marketing, but rather, finding the right match between client/customer/consumer and the company/agent/producer. Give them what they want. And if what you got ain't what they need, then don't even bother trying to 'sell' to them 'cos it's really force-fed and also you don't need that business anyway - better to focus that energy on someone who'll actually want it and give you the long-term business. Though I don't think everyone in business or working with consumers are actually aware of this concept yet. My husband works in marketing world and he always tells me the way he runs his business and getting clients, which is pretty close to that last sentence you mentioned. In fact, trying sell products indiscriminately is no longer the way to marketing, but rather, finding the right match between client/customer/consumer and the company/agent/producer. Give them what they want. And if what you got ain’t what they need, then don’t even bother trying to ’sell’ to them ‘cos it’s really force-fed and also you don’t need that business anyway - better to focus that energy on someone who’ll actually want it and give you the long-term business. Though I don’t think everyone in business or working with consumers are actually aware of this concept yet.

]]> By: Martin http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2223 Martin Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:21:58 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2223 Ya, I would agree that anything that reconnects the listener to the artist creates a value point of reciprocated respect. Example, when Joe Satriani put released his new album in April ans released a podcast each day for 11 days prior to the album release. Each day took a song with him playing it on his own in the studio and then talked about why he wrote the song and then played a quick clip of the finished version. This added immense value to me and though I haven't bought a Satriani album for YEARS (early nineties) I bought this album. I think that you are doing a great thing David! Ya, I would agree that anything that reconnects the listener to the artist creates a value point of reciprocated respect. Example, when Joe Satriani put released his new album in April ans released a podcast each day for 11 days prior to the album release. Each day took a song with him playing it on his own in the studio and then talked about why he wrote the song and then played a quick clip of the finished version. This added immense value to me and though I haven’t bought a Satriani album for YEARS (early nineties) I bought this album.
I think that you are doing a great thing David!

]]> By: stace http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2213 stace Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:43:15 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2213 David, I think you really are doing it right. Absolutely. I've been through the major label machine as well and I think that you are forging a path that guys like me would be stupid to not emulate in some manner. stace David,

I think you really are doing it right. Absolutely.

I’ve been through the major label machine as well and I think that you are forging a path that guys like me would be stupid to not emulate in some manner.

stace

]]> By: Erica http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2202 Erica Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:49:46 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2202 for the record, it's 9:49 am montreal time and it said 1:48 pm. ;) for the record, it’s 9:49 am montreal time and it said 1:48 pm. ;)

]]> By: Erica http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2201 Erica Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:48:23 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2201 probably the big bang Kevin probably the big bang Kevin

]]> By: Kevin Tregunno http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2199 Kevin Tregunno Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:50:10 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2199 here's an intellegent question, whats the oppostite of a ding a ling? here’s an intellegent question, whats the oppostite of a ding a ling?

]]> By: Kevin Tregunno http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2198 Kevin Tregunno Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:43:05 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2198 Just the simple idea that i can write a message here, and you will read it, maybe, and it has a difference, and you respect what i have to say...that means the world to me as a fan, it gives me the utmost respect for you as an artist, it makes me want to buy your cd, not because i couldnt just get the music from the internet, but becuase I want to own the cd and through it in my cd player and listen to it, for a week straight, then maybe i'll download some songs that have special meaning to me, then i'll use that for mp3 player. But I bought the cd because I genuinely want to support you. We shouldnt be ployed into buying something thats not geniuine in our eyes. Its scary in the era of mega stars, they seem untouchable where the closest we get to the them is the media, its unreal, you remind your fans that, you are a human being, who is writing music, and working, just like the rest of us, your not put on some false pedestal and admired from a tv screen per se, its more that you are genuienely respected, and adored because of your commitment to your fans, and keeping the source of your inspiration something shared. Its what we need as consumers of music, we need to feel a part of it, other wise, we its just soulless. What i do is just use my facebook to post my favorite music videos, i watch the videos like my own personal much music. i post them in my fun wall, so it doesnt show, to my whole community that i posted it, i dont bother people with my videos becuase theyre are there for me to watch when i am bored. If someone shows interest in me, then they can check out my videos, I try and reflect my life and feelings in the videos i post. other then that i just use my computer to write in a journal and i use email, and surf the net But other then that I dont use it to interact, i fear people have hacked my computer, i came home one day and my yahoo msn was on and it was under a different name, not mine. so I dont know i always feel paranoid about it, i dont like to use my computer unless I feel safe, but i just take the attitude of nothing to hide, who cares, I dont post my address or any personal information, so let the hackers have there fun, if i ever catch them then, i will report it. other then that i dont what else to say, except you are really special artist David, thanks again for doing what you do. Kev Just the simple idea that i can write a message here, and you will read it, maybe, and it has a difference, and you respect what i have to say…that means the world to me as a fan, it gives me the utmost respect for you as an artist, it makes me want to buy your cd, not because i couldnt just get the music from the internet, but becuase I want to own the cd and through it in my cd player and listen to it, for a week straight, then maybe i’ll download some songs that have special meaning to me, then i’ll use that for mp3 player. But I bought the cd because I genuinely want to support you. We shouldnt be ployed into buying something thats not geniuine in our eyes. Its scary in the era of mega stars, they seem untouchable where the closest we get to the them is the media, its unreal, you remind your fans that, you are a human being, who is writing music, and working, just like the rest of us, your not put on some false pedestal and admired from a tv screen per se, its more that you are genuienely respected, and adored because of your commitment to your fans, and keeping the source of your inspiration something shared. Its what we need as consumers of music, we need to feel a part of it, other wise, we its just soulless.

What i do is just use my facebook to post my favorite music videos, i watch the videos like my own personal much music. i post them in my fun wall, so it doesnt show, to my whole community that i posted it, i dont bother people with my videos becuase theyre are there for me to watch when i am bored. If someone shows interest in me, then they can check out my videos, I try and reflect my life and feelings in the videos i post. other then that i just use my computer to write in a journal and i use email, and surf the net But other then that I dont use it to interact, i fear people have hacked my computer, i came home one day and my yahoo msn was on and it was under a different name, not mine. so I dont know i always feel paranoid about it, i dont like to use my computer unless I feel safe, but i just take the attitude of nothing to hide, who cares, I dont post my address or any personal information, so let the hackers have there fun, if i ever catch them then, i will report it. other then that i dont what else to say, except you are really special artist David, thanks again for doing what you do.
Kev

]]> By: Rafe http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2196 Rafe Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:19:54 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2196 Ya, that's what I want to do. the thing is so far my home recordings haven't been at the level I need them to be. I don't mind about guitar/piano/vocal recordings, but for some reason my recordings always seem to lack honesty. (one thing about Jon Coulton is his home recordings are amazing). But I've been learning about protools and I just bought a large diaghram condensor mic which means I can record vocals and guitar at the same time and have it sound decent, so hopefully that will help. Also, hopefully it will make the sound on my youtube videos way better, but i'll have to wait and see with that one. Ya, that’s what I want to do.

the thing is so far my home recordings haven’t been at the level I need them to be. I don’t mind about guitar/piano/vocal recordings, but for some reason my recordings always seem to lack honesty. (one thing about Jon Coulton is his home recordings are amazing).

But I’ve been learning about protools and I just bought a large diaghram condensor mic which means I can record vocals and guitar at the same time and have it sound decent, so hopefully that will help.

Also, hopefully it will make the sound on my youtube videos way better, but i’ll have to wait and see with that one.

]]> By: David Usher http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2181 David Usher Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:10:39 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2181 i agree that artists can release way more material now in different stages of development. no gatekeepers so all thats left is, 'try it' i agree that artists can release way more material now in different stages of development. no gatekeepers so all thats left is, ‘try it’

]]> By: Rafe http://www.cloudid.com/2008/06/27/me-at-mesh/#comment-2174 Rafe Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:40:57 +0000 http://www.cloudid.com/?p=67#comment-2174 I don't think artists take advantage of the new economy enough. An example of a guy who does is Jonathan Coulton. Jonathan Coulton made a song a week, and sold them or gave them away on the internet. You could either buy it or get it for free. Recently, apparantly, he has been making a lot of money doing music. More than he ever made as a computer programmer. It occurs to me that one of the reasons he was able to do so well is the quantity of songs. Since he had 52 songs, the hardcore fans could buy all 52. If he was a regular artist, he'd pick the best 12 and do an album, but then he would only make 12 dollars instead of 50. What if artists stopped being so selective and only selling there best songs. What if John Mayer or someone like that released 50 low production songs a year every year. One a week. Sure, the songs wouldn't be as great, but doesn't it come down to taste? There can be a favourite song for everyone. That's it, that's my idea. I don’t think artists take advantage of the new economy enough.

An example of a guy who does is Jonathan Coulton. Jonathan Coulton made a song a week, and sold them or gave them away on the internet. You could either buy it or get it for free. Recently, apparantly, he has been making a lot of money doing music. More than he ever made as a computer programmer. It occurs to me that one of the reasons he was able to do so well is the quantity of songs. Since he had 52 songs, the hardcore fans could buy all 52. If he was a regular artist, he’d pick the best 12 and do an album, but then he would only make 12 dollars instead of 50.

What if artists stopped being so selective and only selling there best songs. What if John Mayer or someone like that released 50 low production songs a year every year. One a week. Sure, the songs wouldn’t be as great, but doesn’t it come down to taste? There can be a favourite song for everyone.

That’s it, that’s my idea.

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