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	<title>Comments on: Passion vs Aggression</title>
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	<description>David Usher's blog on art, technology and the communication revolution</description>
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		<title>By: Blaise Alleyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaise Alleyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things come to mind...


"It's easier to be an asshole to words than to people," &lt;a href="http://xkcd.com/438/" rel="nofollow"&gt;says xkcd&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September" rel="nofollow"&gt;Eternal September&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flamewar" rel="nofollow"&gt;flamewar&lt;/a&gt;


I always attach my name to my comments for a reason. I find it holds me somewhat accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things come to mind&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s easier to be an asshole to words than to people,&#8221; <a href="http://xkcd.com/438/" rel="nofollow">says xkcd</a>.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September" rel="nofollow">Eternal September</a><br />
<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flamewar" rel="nofollow">flamewar</a></p>
<p>I always attach my name to my comments for a reason. I find it holds me somewhat accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: yvette</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2402</link>
		<dc:creator>yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel
Thanks. Creativity can be hit or miss but you'll never know until you try. The value begins with the intent. :-) It may go askew at times..as we all know...so be prepared without losing that spontaneity.

@David
Thanks for inspiring each and every day :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel<br />
Thanks. Creativity can be hit or miss but you&#8217;ll never know until you try. The value begins with the intent. <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> It may go askew at times..as we all know&#8230;so be prepared without losing that spontaneity.</p>
<p>@David<br />
Thanks for inspiring each and every day <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Ghattas</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2399</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Ghattas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: yvette</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2398</link>
		<dc:creator>yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm? Maybe I'll get on my bullhorn for a minute with a poem that was inspired by all this aggression! LOL. Except it's meant to be passive :-)

 "I'd understand if I was there
 so I may misinterpret a bit or two.
 Forget that I am late
 and missed it by an inch
 but let me try to resonate 
 a thing or two with you.

 Now, now.
 Scared are you protectors
 of those with different points of view?

 Value...
 What is value?
 Another's creativity piled upon the steps...
 waiting to be noticed in another shade or hue?

 Speak up now young starlet.
 But remember to tread carefully
 for some may never invite you to their ball.

 Be bold.
 Be kind.
 Beware...
 but never be all
 to everyone!

 Someday you may drown in your own sun...
 your own light...
 if you can catch a ray from one who shines most    
 bright."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm? Maybe I&#8217;ll get on my bullhorn for a minute with a poem that was inspired by all this aggression! LOL. Except it&#8217;s meant to be passive <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> &#8220;I&#8217;d understand if I was there<br />
 so I may misinterpret a bit or two.<br />
 Forget that I am late<br />
 and missed it by an inch<br />
 but let me try to resonate<br />
 a thing or two with you.</p>
<p> Now, now.<br />
 Scared are you protectors<br />
 of those with different points of view?</p>
<p> Value&#8230;<br />
 What is value?<br />
 Another&#8217;s creativity piled upon the steps&#8230;<br />
 waiting to be noticed in another shade or hue?</p>
<p> Speak up now young starlet.<br />
 But remember to tread carefully<br />
 for some may never invite you to their ball.</p>
<p> Be bold.<br />
 Be kind.<br />
 Beware&#8230;<br />
 but never be all<br />
 to everyone!</p>
<p> Someday you may drown in your own sun&#8230;<br />
 your own light&#8230;<br />
 if you can catch a ray from one who shines most<br />
 bright.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: yvette</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2397</link>
		<dc:creator>yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people get out the bullhorn I consider that aggressive :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people get out the bullhorn I consider that aggressive <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: stormy</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2388</link>
		<dc:creator>stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes when people are assertive and stand up for what they believe in it is called aggressive.

Sometimes when people lose their silence and raise their voice it is considered aggressive.

Sometimes when people call you on inconsistancies and hypocrisy you are called aggressive.

Sometimes when people "trunk you" it is considered aggressive. 

I am a blank slate theorist and that aggression is a man made trait. We learn it from our environments and that people are born without that tendancy. Anyhow, when does passion turn to aggression. It would need to start with a definition of the two as you and I may have very different perception on what is aggression. Look at the hockey picture, I think it is violence that should be punishable by law. Most people think it is "part of the sport". I am a strong believer that aggression is probably an unnecessary trait, but condoned so much in society. The more it is condoned, the more we are desensitized, the more we become it, the more unaware of it becoming us. It is like being in an abusive relationship and the Stockholm Syndrome, there is safety in remaining close to your capture. Maybe there is safety being close to your aggression as well. Can I as a non-violent activist, working in a zero tolerance field be aggressive? You mess with certain aspects of my life, and yup, i sure can be. I am human that way. I have been accused of being aggressive when working with an addict, and she did specifically say aggressive. She was right, i was aggressively trying to help her to save her life. 
I am a very shy quiet person. I really am. But I fight with passion, and for my believes and loves with aggression. Why lie about it eh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes when people are assertive and stand up for what they believe in it is called aggressive.</p>
<p>Sometimes when people lose their silence and raise their voice it is considered aggressive.</p>
<p>Sometimes when people call you on inconsistancies and hypocrisy you are called aggressive.</p>
<p>Sometimes when people &#8220;trunk you&#8221; it is considered aggressive. </p>
<p>I am a blank slate theorist and that aggression is a man made trait. We learn it from our environments and that people are born without that tendancy. Anyhow, when does passion turn to aggression. It would need to start with a definition of the two as you and I may have very different perception on what is aggression. Look at the hockey picture, I think it is violence that should be punishable by law. Most people think it is &#8220;part of the sport&#8221;. I am a strong believer that aggression is probably an unnecessary trait, but condoned so much in society. The more it is condoned, the more we are desensitized, the more we become it, the more unaware of it becoming us. It is like being in an abusive relationship and the Stockholm Syndrome, there is safety in remaining close to your capture. Maybe there is safety being close to your aggression as well. Can I as a non-violent activist, working in a zero tolerance field be aggressive? You mess with certain aspects of my life, and yup, i sure can be. I am human that way. I have been accused of being aggressive when working with an addict, and she did specifically say aggressive. She was right, i was aggressively trying to help her to save her life.<br />
I am a very shy quiet person. I really am. But I fight with passion, and for my believes and loves with aggression. Why lie about it eh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Svetlana</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2387</link>
		<dc:creator>Svetlana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Sabrina aka angelinfire: I do not see either :)
It has become too transparent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sabrina aka angelinfire: I do not see either <img src='http://www.cloudid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It has become too transparent</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2386</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe passion can turn to agression when someone or some people, such as in yesterday's case, attack a person's core values without knowing said person. In the previous blog certain comments, initiated by a particular comment very early on in the conversation, used words and insinuations about someone's values, code of ethics and education without knowing him; and all ended up being proven completely and surprisingly wrong. Many of the participants were quick to point out what was going on, although some resorted to unnecessary aggressiveness which made things worse. It's a vicious circle the line between passion and agression can be very fine.

Twisting words and ideas while hiding behind the pretense of debating principles gets us nowhere.
The key is for people to take the time to re-read what they write, and ask themselves if what they are saying is fair and clear, or biased, before hitting the submit button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe passion can turn to agression when someone or some people, such as in yesterday&#8217;s case, attack a person&#8217;s core values without knowing said person. In the previous blog certain comments, initiated by a particular comment very early on in the conversation, used words and insinuations about someone&#8217;s values, code of ethics and education without knowing him; and all ended up being proven completely and surprisingly wrong. Many of the participants were quick to point out what was going on, although some resorted to unnecessary aggressiveness which made things worse. It&#8217;s a vicious circle the line between passion and agression can be very fine.</p>
<p>Twisting words and ideas while hiding behind the pretense of debating principles gets us nowhere.<br />
The key is for people to take the time to re-read what they write, and ask themselves if what they are saying is fair and clear, or biased, before hitting the submit button.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in terms of aggression, online you have two types of aggressors: the ones who are on edge and ready to fight about anything, anytime... and the ones who would never be so confrontational in "real" life, but feel safe behind the anonymity of this. Just fire and run. Sometimes, I think people forget theyre arguing with real, live human beings. (Would you fling these same insults face to face?)

As we get more and more consumed by the internet, I think its easy for our sense of reality to become distorted. We need to make a more intentional effort to be kind and thoughtful in ALL our interactions, online or otherwise....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in terms of aggression, online you have two types of aggressors: the ones who are on edge and ready to fight about anything, anytime&#8230; and the ones who would never be so confrontational in &#8220;real&#8221; life, but feel safe behind the anonymity of this. Just fire and run. Sometimes, I think people forget theyre arguing with real, live human beings. (Would you fling these same insults face to face?)</p>
<p>As we get more and more consumed by the internet, I think its easy for our sense of reality to become distorted. We need to make a more intentional effort to be kind and thoughtful in ALL our interactions, online or otherwise&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina aka angelinfire</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudid.com/2008/07/18/passion-vs-aggression/#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabrina aka angelinfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Svetlana : i don't see it ;(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Svetlana : i don&#8217;t see it ;(</p>
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